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Old 11-09-2007, 01:41 AM
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Intro by Joe D’Aleo, Icecap, CCM
I was privileged to work with John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel in the year before it became a reality and then for the first of the 6 years I was fortunate to be the Director of Meteorology. No one worked harder than John to make The Weather Channel a reality and to make sure the staffing, the information and technology was the very best possible at that time. John currently works with KUSI in San Diego. He posts regularly. I am very pleased to present his latest insightful post.

By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create an allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmentally conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minute documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, i.e. Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

Full article: http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/co...global_warming/

An EXCELLENT read. We need more people like this to come out with the truth!

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Old 11-09-2007, 07:09 PM
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Interesting but how do we KNOW that that is true? Also if the global warming wasn't quick how come sea ice is falling so quickly?
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Old 11-10-2007, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE (Dustin @ Nov 9 2007, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Interesting but how do we KNOW that that is true? Also if the global warming wasn't quick how come sea ice is falling so quickly?[/b]
Inhteresting thread. Dustin, I agree. I'll submit that John misses the larger picture. He approaches GlobalWarming / ClimateChange from a scientific perspective. Science needs proof. Science does not say anything is true until it can be proven. John is correct that GW/CC can NOT be proven. However, science has a harder time DIS-proving things. How would science PROVE that there is no GW/CC? It can't.

So, we're left with a proposal (GW/CC) that science can neither prove NOR disprove. What we're left with is NOT really a scientific question (there's no scientific answer, so science can't be much help)...we've got a more religious-type debate (John sais GW/CC is not a "religion"...I DISAGREE). We base our belief in religion on faith. Our opinions on GW/CC are also based on beliefs / faith in arguments from one side of the debate or the other. Without proof or dis-proof, we're left with belief / faith.

Will science ever be able to answer the question? I'm sure it will. But it may be 10-100 years before it can. There's no simple answer.

It sounds like many folks here are tired of the GW/CC "believers" winning the popular debate. I'll tell you what I'm tired of...BOTH SIDES HAVING THE EGO & CONCEIT TO THINK THEY'RE RIGHT, AND FAIL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE UNCERTAINTY!
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:26 AM
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By John Coleman

It is the greatest scam in history. I am amazed, appalled and highly offended by it. Global Warming; It is a SCAM. Some dastardly scientists with environmental and political motives manipulated long term scientific data to create in allusion of rapid global warming. Other scientists of the same environmental whacko type jumped into the circle to support and broaden the “research” to further enhance the totally slanted, bogus global warming claims. Their friends in government steered huge research grants their way to keep the movement going. Soon they claimed to be a consensus.

Environmental extremists, notable politicians among them, then teamed up with movie, media and other liberal, environmentalist journalists to create this wild “scientific” scenario of the civilization threatening environmental consequences from Global Warming unless we adhere to their radical agenda. Now their ridiculous manipulated science has been accepted as fact and become a cornerstone issue for CNN, CBS, NBC, the Democratic Political Party, the Governor of California, school teachers and, in many cases, well informed but very gullible environmental conscientious citizens. Only one reporter at ABC has been allowed to counter the Global Warming frenzy with one 15 minutes documentary segment.

I do not oppose environmentalism. I do not oppose the political positions of either party. However, Global Warming, ie Climate Change, is not about environmentalism or politics. It is not a religion. It is not something you “believe in.” It is science; the science of meteorology. This is my field of life-long expertise. And I am telling you Global Warming is a non-event, a manufactured crisis and a total scam. I say this knowing you probably won’t believe a me, a mere TV weatherman, challenging a Nobel Prize, Academy Award and Emmy Award winning former Vice President of United States. So be it.

I have read dozens of scientific papers. I have talked with numerous scientists. I have studied. I have thought about it. I know I am correct. There is no run away climate change. The impact of humans on climate is not catastrophic. Our planet is not in peril. I am incensed by the incredible media glamour, the politically correct silliness and rude dismissal of counter arguments by the high priest of Global Warming.

In time, a decade or two, the outrageous scam will be obvious. As the temperature rises, polar ice cap melting, coastal flooding and super storm pattern all fail to occur as predicted everyone will come to realize we have been duped. The sky is not falling. And, natural cycles and drifts in climate are as much if not more responsible for any climate changes underway. I strongly believe that the next twenty years are equally as likely to see a cooling trend as they are to see a warming trend.[/b]
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Moved to appropriate forum.

EDIT: And now merged with identical topic also.
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