Global Warming

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QUOTE (MatthewCarman @ Feb 4 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I looked outside and saw a tree here in central Iowa with still 40% of it's leaves. Most trees are bare or have lessd then 10% of thier leaves.[/b]

were these leaves dead...or still green....or still colored??

i know some trees still keep the dead leaves (about 20-30% coverage) until the new ones are about ready to come out....

[thedude]

yeah, there's some trees here with dead (brown) leaves still on them, with about 50%-70% coverage. That's normal here though. They won't fall completely off until March or early April.

I would've thought all the wind events we've had would've taken them off though...

[snowstruck]

QUOTE (Indy @ Nov 21 2007, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I talked to my Mom yesterday. She lives in Europe. They've had a year without a summer for the most part. It has been cold and damp all year long it seems. It can best be described as weather from the 1970's.[/b]

How has their winter been, so far? It cannot possibly be worse than what we in Northern Virginia have been experiencing thus far. As far as I am concerned, it is as if winter never started, and that we are merely going through an extended fall, soon to give way to spring in about a month or so.

[Indy]

QUOTE (snowstruck @ Feb 10 2008, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

How has their winter been, so far? It cannot possibly be worse than what we in Northern Virginia have been experiencing thus far. As far as I am concerned, it is as if winter never started, and that we are merely going through an extended fall, soon to give way to spring in about a month or so.[/b]

Not sure how its been but I'll be in Germany next week so I'll find out first hand. If you've had a mild winter you've been lucky. We've had some weird stuff this year. Went from 55 degrees to snow in 1hr 10min. It was nuts. I know globally 2008 has gotten off to a very cold start with average temperatures planet wide being below normal for the first time in a LONG time. I'm sure the Chinese can't wait for spring.

Really? We've gotten 4 inches of snow in N Ga, and 2 weeks with highs in the 30's and 40's.

[thedude]

Germany, and especially the UK has been very mild and pretty dry the last week roughly. And more of that rain that usually goes to the UK and western Europe has been falling in the coastal areas of far northern Norway...again. The current ridge should begin to weaken slightly within a few days so coastal northern Norway will see snow and/or snow/rain instead of all rain once again. Although the UK and western Europe still look dry and mild in the next week...

[Indy]

I've done a little work to compile global temperature trends. Here is the 10 year and 5 year trend.

10 year



5 year



I have 4 different charts as well as information on what I believe is the end of global warming and the start of the cooling trend. Check it out. This thread tells it all.

http://www.climatepatrol.com/forum/1.../pg1/index.php

Dan, is that really accurate given the short amount of time, that chart is over?

[Indy]

Yes Dustin it is accurate. It is a temperature trend for the date range specified. If you look at the first chart and you block out the high and low spike that start it out and look at the 7 or 8 years that follow its easy to see temperatures were flat. The 5 year is harder to make out. Having seen previous ranks for global temperatures I'd know it was a downward trend because 2 of the last 3 years were down quite a bit. I wouldn't have known the exact trend with that mess of points lol. Excel was able to calculate the trend and plot it. There was no change to the Excel formula for the trend line. It was plotted by the software based on the numbers in the chart.

I'm leaving on vacation tomorrow and when I come back in a week I'll work on nicer looking graphs that run progressive averages so its easier to follow the flow of temperatures from month to month.

[Frozen_Signal]

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from boortz.com

'COLD WAVE IN INDIA ATTRIBUTED TO GLOBAL WARMING'

No, folks. I am not making that up. That is an actual headline that ran in an Indian newspaper. Does that make any logical sense at all?

It has been cold in India. They have been having a cold wave, but they decided that they are going to host a conference on global warming in Mumbai. Now you don't want to have a big-deal conference on global warming during a cold snap, so they have to come up with an explanation. The explanation, of course, is to blame the cold on global warming.

The former Union minister for power and environment Suresh Prabhu says that it is the increase of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide, nitrogen oxide and methane that have caused this situation. Oh and in case you didn't know, 70% of India's water bodies are polluted ... and that is because of global warming. Oh and by the way ... by 2050, seven million people are expected to take refuge in Mumbai because global warming is going to cause a drought or a deluge ... take your pick. Whatever happens, we all know that we can blame it on global warming.